Re: Sartar & culture

Joerg Baumgartner (
Wed, 24 Jul 96 22:54 MET DST

Jane Williams
>David continues:
>>Would it would not be more likely that =
>>he left to get back to old time Orlanthi culture, like the Coylmar.

>We don't seem to have much idea why Sartar left home, other than being a
>master of the Motion rune. KoS does say that he didn't maintain contact with
>his clan once he had left, so he must have disagreed with them about something.

I am not certain whether this made it into Wyrm's Footprints, but according
to the History of Trolls in WF 6 or 7 Sartar entered Dragon Pass originally
as an agent of the Pharaoh who should clear the trade routes into (then
still free) Tarsh through the Quivini lands. Sartar did so by introducing
cities and highways to the very backward oriented Quivini tribes.

>Of the Colymar, of rather, Colymar himself, it says that no record exists of
>his reasons for leaving other than his desire to settle where he did. He
>came from Esrolia around 1300, his wife was an earth priestess. Maybe that's
>what I was getting confused with.

That 1300 date is mentioned in the same breath as civil war in the Holy
Country involving Belintar (at least in the Colymar Book), so it might
better be taken with a grain of salt.

>>Is Varmand not a Norse name, I have not got a Norse
>>name list handy.

>If you say Varmand is a Norse name I'll believe you, but Vastyr could
>be either - it sounds Celtic, but Tyr was a Norse god. Most of the rest
>don't seem to fit either pattern.

Varmand might, with a very good amount of fantasy, be translated as "our
man" from Scandinavian language(s), although the translation "warm duck",
"warm breath" or "warm spirit" offers itself as well (in either case
ignoring one a with a circle above, which isn't pronounced like a at all).

Anyway, I never stumbled across a Viking character by this name so far. Nor
do I believe that we are likely to find much Celtic or Norse or Saxon name
fragments from more recent origin. If you look at the names in Dragon's Past
(reprinted in Wyrms Footprints), you'll find modern French and English names
as often as strange ones (Naimless and Red- and Bluebird topping the list).


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