Nick Eden asked for information on the nature of Ginna Jar. This question was put to Greg at the Gloranthan Lore Auction at RuneQuest-Con. This was his reply: "Ginna Jar is either another blank space on the council for someone who needs to sit there, which may change. On the first half of the quest, it may be a Humakti. For the second half, it may be a Babeester Gor. It depends on the precise circumstances of that individual ring. Or, it is the collective spirit of the members of the Lightbringers' Quest." This may explain why Ginna Jar is not listed in the Prospeadia Book, as it is not an actual deity but a collective name for various spirits or deities. King of Sartar may also have additional information on how the Orlanthi view Ginna Jar. I hope this information helps. Cheers, Darren. ------------------------------