Me, then David Cake: >> I don't think most Sartarites >>would have any trouble rationalizing the killing of converts from their own >>clan or tribe > Can I just strongly disagree with that? No. At least, what you wrote next is not contrary to what my view is. > I think all Sartarites agree with Simon Phipps point of view. Seven >Mothers worshipping Sartarites are not only legal members of the tribe, but >can even be a tribal king (Bolthor and Blackmoor being the obvious >examples). But thats an Orlanthi all, and your PCs are welcome to be in the >remainder. The key word in my quote above is "rationalizing." I bet there are lots of good tribesmen in Bolthor's and Blackmoor's tribes who would kill them if they could. I doubt it's as little as 15%, though, except in wussy tribes. An instructive RW parallel is modern Israel, where a rather influential group of rabbis told soldiers it was their religious duty to disobey lawful orders to withdraw from occupied territory. Apparently, over 50% of the populace sympathized with this view or something similar to it, though not all were as fanatical about it. If you were doing a public opinion survey of Sartar (something so un-Orlanthi and un-Gloranthan as to be laughable, so no flames, please), it might read something like this: Do you agree or disagree that it is morally justifiable to kill members of your tribe solely because they have converted to the Lunar Way? Strongly agree 10% --the guys who do it Agree 15% --the guys who give aid and comfort to the above group Somewhat agree 20% --these guys aren't willing to act on it or support it for now Somewhat disagree 30% --peaceful, wishy-washy types Disagree 20% --those with Lunar family members Strongly disagree 5% --the Lunars YGMV. > I think what happens if you kill converts is the anti-Lunar >religious fanatics from your tribe (like Storm Bulls) pat you on the back, >and the converts family probably try and kill you (and certainly bear you a >strong hate). It might work, but it might just rip the tribe apart. All right! Kinstrife, the great Orlanthi tragedy. Good storyline. - --Martin Crim ------------------------------