Martin published a faux public opinion survey for Sartar about killing converts, suggesting only about 45% would agree to one degree or another with such an action. Even to a foaming at the mouth Orlanthi like me, his numbers basically make sense (in fact they may even be a little high). But let's not forget the original question: "Do you think it's acceptable Orlanthi behavior to ambush native Lunar civilians on occupied Sartarite territory?" I think numbers on this question would break down as follows: Strongly agree 20% --people who'd do it in a second if they could get away with it Agree 30% --people who'd give aid and comfort to the above group Somewhat agree 30% --these guys aren't willing to act on it or support it for now (but wait until Argrath shows up) Somewhat disagree 15% --peaceful, wishy-washy types Disagree 4% --Chalanans, merchants, those with Lunar family members Strongly disagree 1% --Lunar converts Frankly, I'm just not convinced that there're that many true converts to the Lunar way in Sartar. Martin pegged the number at 5%, which I suppose I could buy if you include the lay members in cults like Etyries of Teelo Nori. But if we define a convert as an initiate, a person who's actually sacrificed POW to a Lunar god (not just money or magic points) I have the feeling these numbers would be much lower. Mind you, I'm not talking about what's happening in Aggar, or Bilini, or Talastar, I'm talking Sartar (and probably Heortland as well). I think the reason I've been hitting this thread so hard is that there's a revisionist tendency in TOTRM, the Digest, and indeed in Greg's writings, to paint the Lunar Empire in a much more sympathetic light than the way our Sartarite PCs saw them back when I was an impressionable teenager (way back in the early eighties) spending a frightening portion of my free time in Glorantha. I think new understanding of the Lunars is terrific, in an illuminated God-Learning kind of way, but I think it's important to remember that the people of Sartar largely aren't illuminated God-Learners. Mostly they're simple, Orlanth fearing farmers (who happen to have a feirce warrior tradition and grandpa's bastard sword hidden in the hayloft). The Lunars probably think about the situation in Sartar much the way we would. They're there to help spread civilization, their way is inherently better, and it's only a matter of time before they win the Sartarite hearts and minds. But we all know what a bad mistake that will turn out to be. ------------------------------